SLAA Online Group Conscience Business Meeting in #slaa2
Minutes for October 2nd 2018 at 9 pm ET


troy moderated the meeting.


Serenity Prayer



Troy - Motion: Robert's Rules of Order are to be used in biz Meetings (3/11/99). Also: Please note how Robert’s rules of order are to be used: “In the interest of tackling all of the items on this agenda and allowing everyone the opportunity to speak on the extremely important topics, suggest the following format in this meeting: Each topic under New Business will begin with a motion being made: That motion will then either be seconded or set aside. Upon the motion being seconded, discussion will begin. During discussion, only friendly amendments will be accepted to the motion. An amendment will be considered a friendly amendment if the original provider of the motion concurs with the amendment. Everyone will be allowed one share on each motion presented. Each share will be limited to 3 minutes in length. The end of discussion will be the point at which a vote is taken. A vote was taken on following this format and the Motion passed. (2/15/07)


Read and approve October agenda - Link on website homepage - APPROVED


Read and approve September minutes - APPROVED


Read and approve Treasurer's report (to 1 Sep 2018) - APPROVED


Read and review Liaison Officer's report - LINK POSTED


Op Applications



Old Business



New Business



10 Minute Open Forum

03:16 <+Olga> I have two points I'd like to raise

03:17 <+Olga> Unfortunately I feel like this forum is tiny 03:17 <+Olga> and in this situation, population size is important. 03:17 <+Olga> So for one, we have over $600 in our treasury--why?!?! 03:17 <+Olga> Our prudent reserve is $150 03:17 <+Olga> Our last donation to FWS was in December of 2016 03:17 <+Olga> If we have money, we arent spending money on the only real "work" that we do which is bringing the messsage to SLAs 03:18 <+Olga> I don't have a specific idea as to "what" to do, but I do want to raise that, theoretically with the treasurer and other members

03:18 <+Olga> Second thing and I know I have a minute is... 03:18 <+Olga> I seriously want to figure out a better way, other than an announcement at the ending scripts where everyone is zoned out, to talk about service 03:18 <+Olga> The scripts start and the attention ends, I believe 03:19 <+Olga> and service is sobering, as we all know. It's important. It makes this place "home" hence my half-joking "roomies" statement. 03:19 <+Olga> That is all! 03:19 <+Olga> thanks 03:19 <+Olga> done

03:20 <@Nine> I wish there is more people here too 03:20 <@Nine> my issues 03:20 <@Nine> I have 2 03:21 <@Nine> Maintain the Growth to avoid a slip or Relapse Prevention. 03:21 <@Nine> How many people that are in recovery obtain some level of sobriety then fall away. Why is that? 03:21 <@Nine> Many of these people have become friends, a sponsee we invest in them and somehow they slip away?! 03:21 <@Nine> In meetings I often here I am white knuckling, struggling, obsessing. 03:21 <@Nine> We have a few things to pass on during these times: Tools of Recovery #13 (Live in the moment), 28 (HALT), 33 (Surrender) and 36 (Think It Through). 03:22 <@Nine> When your thinking of acting out your mind is not clear. Your in pain...

03:22 <@Nine> What if we as OP's could have a page on the website to offer to avoid a slip. 03:22 <@Nine> My proposal to have a special meeting of Op's/ members with long time sobriety to discuss what would be on this page. 03:22 <@Nine> Then we will able to help those who still struggle more effectively 03:23 <@Nine> . 03:23 <@Nine> . 03:23 <@Nine> . 03:23 <@Nine> Second issue is I have seen in f2f meetings when there are a large group of members coming for a meeting. That the meeting is split so more people can share. 03:23 <@Nine> If there are 2 OP's then this could work 03:24 <@Nine> one share in room 1 03:24 <@Nine> the other in room 2 03:24 <@Nine> then come back to finish up in main room 03:25 <@Nine> Thank you for your concerns as well Olga 03:25 <@Nine> done

03:25 <@troy> re: money 03:26 <@troy> our basic economic commitments include 03:26 <@troy> financing delegate to annual SLAA ABM 03:28 <@troy> which is why the figure is somewhat over $150 03:28 <@troy> previously we have been dependent on last minute big individual donations 03:29 <@troy> which we wish to avoid necessity of with better forsight and saving during the year

03:29 <@troy> re outreach 03:29 <+Olga> nods 03:29 <@troy> we have an outreach email and poster 03:30 <@troy> which we send out to every slaa group in the world that has posted an email address on the SLAAFWS site 03:30 <@troy> we send this twice a year 03:31 <@troy> re service 03:31 <@troy> there is a Tools of Recovery script - #26 03:32 <@troy> about service - can be run during meetings 03:32 <@troy> more likely to get read than within the long start/end scripts 03:34 <+Olga> nods 03:34 <@Nine> agree 03:34 <@troy> members we know who we think meet the op requirements 03:35 <@troy> can be personally encouraged to apply for op status 03:35 <@troy> for info: 03:36 <@troy> slaa online office receives several new enquiries daily 03:36 <@troy> asking about joining the group 03:37 <@troy> so we are getting known 03:37 <@troy> thx 03:37 <@troy> done

03:38 <@troy> re big meetings 03:39 <@troy> i think splitting the meeting 03:39 <@troy> #slaa / #slaa2 03:39 <@troy> is mentioned in the guide or somewhere 03:39 <+Olga> nods 03:40 <@troy> but has not been used in practice during the time i have been in the group 03:40 <@troy> when there has been difficulty for all wanting to to share ... 03:41 <@troy> it has rather been because i have been overgenerous with individual share times ... 03:42 <@troy> with big meetings i at least 03:42 <@troy> could be better with earlier "one minute" reminders 03:42 <@troy> i personally don't think 03:43 <@troy> the meetings are presently quite big enough to justify the complication of regular splitting 03:43 <@troy> thx 03:43 <@troy> done 03:43


Serenity Prayer


Meeting adjourned