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Session Start: Tue Apr 03 21:09:18 2007
Session Ident: #slaa2
[21:09] * Now talking in #slaa2
[21:09] * Topic is 'Welcome to #slaa2 '
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[21:09] -CStar- to #slaa. | Hot topic for the month? Our website is due for updating and renewal. Please read this important information as your input is valued. http://slaaonline.org/proposal.txt
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[21:10] <Lynn> Ok...let's get started
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[21:11] <Lynn> Opening Prayer
[21:11] <Lynn> God,please set aside everything
[21:11] <Lynn> I think I know about myself.
[21:11] <Lynn> The Steps, Recovery and You.
[21:11] <Lynn> Please help me to have an open mind
[21:11] <Lynn> So that I may have a new experience
[21:11] * Lynn sets mode: +vvvvvv BethH BillH EF Ken-AFK lane sandy
[21:11] <Lynn> and discover the truth.
[21:11] <Lynn> Amen
[21:11] <Lynn> Agenda for April
[21:11] <Lynn> I.(A).. Reading of the minutes from February
[21:12] <Lynn> slaaonline.org/minute.html
[21:12] <Lynn> (B).. Approval of the minutes
[21:12] <Lynn> . Each member will have the opportunity to speak for three minutes on each item on the agenda.
[21:12] <Lynn> ...Is everyone in agreement with this?
[21:12] <BillH> +
[21:12] <Lynn> II. Old Business
[21:12] <Lynn> ....(A) Since Ken has stepped down as officer, we are in need of someone to head up the Guidelines Committee or do we still want this committee?
[21:12] <Lynn> .
[21:12] <Lynn> ....(B) Discussion re rotating the business meeting to be held during the day every other month so members from other time zones can attend.
[21:12] <Lynn> .
[21:12] <Lynn> ....(C) Website proposal changes
[21:12] <Lynn> ,
[21:12] <Lynn> .
[21:12] <Lynn> III. (A)..Treasure's report
[21:12] <Lynn> slaaonline.org/minutes.html
[21:12] <Lynn> .
[21:12] <Lynn> (B)..Approval of report
[21:12] <Lynn> .
[21:13] <Lynn> .
[21:13] <Lynn> IV. New Business
[21:13] <Lynn> .
[21:13] <Lynn> ....(A) New OP's: Beth H
[21:13] <Lynn> ................. Sara
[21:13] <Lynn> .
[21:13] <Lynn> ....(B) Need someone to help new OP's to get started
[21:13] <Lynn> .
[21:13] <Lynn> ....(C) Proposal that we have a quorum of at least 10 people in order to make changes to the guidelines and format of the meeting.
[21:13] <Lynn> .
[21:13] <Lynn> .
[21:13] <Lynn> ,...Closing
[21:13] <Lynn> (A).. Reading of the minutes from February
[21:13] <Lynn> <Lynn> slaaonline.org/minute.html
[21:13] <Lynn> !
[21:14] <Lynn> Lynn here sex and love addict..
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[21:14] <Lynn> Given that our secretary John has stepped down the minutes are not yet ready to be posted..
[21:14] <Lynn> but will be up for the next meeting.
[21:14] <Lynn> done
[21:14] <evan> like to make a motion to table the minute reading
[21:15] <BillH> so motion to table the minutes
[21:15] <Lynn> ALL are encouraged to vote. Please type  +  for yes;  -  for no;  x  for abstain.
[21:15] <Lynn> +
[21:15] <evan> +
[21:15] <BillH> +
[21:15] <lane> +
[21:15] <sunnylady> +
[21:15] <BethH> +
[21:16] <Ken-AFK> +
[21:16] <evan> motion carries...
[21:16] <evan> next.....
[21:16] <Lynn> . Each member will have the opportunity to speak for three minutes on each item on the agenda.
[21:16] <Lynn> <Lynn> ...Is everyone in agreement with this?
[21:16] <EF> -
[21:16] <Lynn> ALL are encouraged to vote. Please type  +  for yes;  -  for no;  x  for abstain.
[21:16] <Lynn> +
[21:16] <BethH> +
[21:16] <BillH> +
[21:16] <evan> +
[21:17] <sunnylady> +
[21:17] <EF> -
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[21:17] <lane> +
[21:17] * Parts: Niki
[21:17] <EF> -
[21:17] <evan> you can only vote once on a motion ef
[21:18] <evan> three seconds till vote closes
[21:18] <evan> 3
[21:18] <evan> 2
[21:18] <evan> 1
[21:18] <evan> motion caries
[21:18] <EF> voting for me myself and I?
[21:18] <evan> next....
[21:18] * Lynn sets mode: +v Solstice1
[21:18] <Lynn> II. Old Business
[21:18] <Lynn> <Lynn> ....(A) Since Ken has stepped down as officer, we are in need of someone to head up the Guidelines Committee or do we still want this committee?
[21:18] <Lynn> Any discussion?
[21:18] <EF> !
[21:19] <Lynn> 8,12 Thank you 4,8 EF 8,12 - you have the floor.
[21:19] <EF> hello, I am EF
[21:19] <BethH> Hi EF
[21:19] <EF> I think slaa needs guidelines
[21:19] <EF> to promote slaa unity
[21:19] <EF> we need a consensus
[21:19] <EF> on what is right and wrong behavior
[21:19] * Parts: Solstice1
[21:19] <EF> so that people won't be blindsided by discipline
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[21:20] <EF> I don't know why John or Ken stepped down; I was really supportive of them in their op positions
[21:20] <EF> even if I did not sound like I was
[21:20] * Rocky-afk is now known as Rocky
[21:20] <EF> I don't know if there needs to be a comittee; but there should be an agreement
[21:20] <EF> by all members of slaa
[21:21] <EF> and rules should be agreed upon
[21:21] <EF> I am really in favor of keeping what goes on in the room
[21:21] <EF> in the room
[21:21] <EF> and not blabbing it outside the room
[21:21] <EF> I am in favor of supporting slaa
[21:21] <EF> this past week I was in the middle of such struggle
[21:22] <EF> anti-slaa vs. pro-slaa
[21:22] <EF> and I was caught in the middle
[21:22] <Lynn> Please stay on topic EF
[21:22] <EF> so yes I think there should be behavioral guidelines that include non-divisiveness (if that is a word), building unity in slaa
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[21:22] <EF> and allowing all members to have some say
[21:22] <EF> thanks
[21:22] <EF> done
[21:22] <Lynn> Thanks EF
[21:23] <Lynn> !
[21:23] <BethH> Thanks EF
[21:23] <Lynn> Hi Lynn here....
[21:23] <BillH> Hi Lynn
[21:23] <lane> hi again lynn
[21:23] <BethH> Hey Lynn
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[21:23] <Lynn> I would like to suggest that if there is no one willing to take on heading this committee...
[21:24] <Lynn> to evaluate the guidelines,
[21:24] <Lynn> that we just continue using the ones posted on our website.
[21:24] <Lynn> done
[21:24] <EF> !
[21:24] <EF> I'm not sure I'm understanding correctly
[21:24] <evan> sorry only one share per topic
[21:24] <Lynn> Everyone can only speak once on a topic
[21:25] <BethH> !
[21:25] <Lynn> 8,12 Thank you 4,8 BethH 8,12 - you have the floor.
[21:25] <BillH> Hi Beth
[21:25] <BethH> Hi everyone, I'm Beth, sex and love addict in recovery..
[21:25] <lane> hi beth
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[21:25] <art> hi beth
[21:26] <BethH> this is my first business meeting and I'm not familiar with this committee per se..
[21:26] <BethH> but I am familiar with the guidelines set forth on the website..
[21:27] <BethH> I guess my opinion is that the guidelines work perfectly well already..
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[21:27] <BethH> and I don't know what could be changed for the better if we had a committee..
[21:28] <BethH> I could be wrong..
[21:28] <BethH> do the guidelines change regularly?..
[21:28] <BethH> as long as I've been here they've stayed the same..
[21:29] <BethH> my opinion is, if guideliness need clarifying or adjusting..
[21:29] <BethH> couldn't we just bring it to the business meeting as a topic to be discussed?
[21:29] <BethH> like I said, I'm new at this, but thanks for listening, I'm done
[21:30] <evan> thanks beth
[21:30] <evan> !
[21:30] <BillH> Hi evan
[21:30] <Lynn> 8,12 Thank you 4,8 evan 8,12 - you have the floor.
[21:30] <BethH> Hi Evan
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[21:30] <evan> id like to share in the belief we don't need behavior guidelines, that people should know how to act, before during and after meetings
[21:31] <evan> if anything id like to see more of a group consciousness rule the room in the moment in the room
[21:31] <evan> ive been here a long time
[21:31] <evan> and there is a few people who constantly grate on the fabric of the channel
[21:32] <evan> its come to the point that it has cause a few people to become disenfranchised with the group
[21:32] <evan> which is a saddening thing for me
[21:33] <evan> i think the guidelines are there for a good reason and should be kept the same and that we should be more proactive in clarifying them
[21:33] <evan> thanks
[21:33] <evan> done
[21:33] * Lynn sets mode: +v ali
[21:33] <evan> next?
[21:33] <BethH> Thanks evan
[21:33] <Lynn> Thanks evan
[21:33] <ali> Ty Evan
[21:33] <BillH> !
[21:33] <Lynn> 8,12 Thank you 4,8 BillH 8,12 - you have the floor.
[21:33] <BillH> i would like to make a motion that the guidelines stay the same
[21:33] <EF> thanks evan, hello billh
[21:33] <BillH> as they are now
[21:33] <BethH> Hey Bill
[21:34] <evan> second
[21:34] <ali> Hi BillH
[21:34] <BillH> and there is no need for a comm.
[21:34] <BillH> done
[21:34] <evan> second
[21:34] <Lynn> Thanks BillH.
[21:34] <lane> !
[21:34] <ali> TY BillH
[21:34] <Lynn> 8,12 Thank you 4,8 lane 8,12 - you have the floor.
[21:34] <BethH> Hi lane
[21:34] <lane> thank you lynn
[21:34] <BillH> Hi lane
[21:34] <lane> bob here, sex and love addict
[21:34] <ali> HI Lane
[21:35] <EF> listens
[21:35] <sunnylady> hi lane
[21:35] <lane> I agree that in a perfect world we should be able to deal with stuff in 'group consciousness'
[21:35] <lane> but
[21:35] <lane> I dont know if there has been things happening in meetings or wherever that needed to be dealt with
[21:36] <lane> but some kind of way of dealing with people who ignore the guidelines
[21:36] <lane> out of the heat of the moment
[21:36] <lane> in cool dispassionate discussion
[21:37] <lane> may be helpful
[21:37] <lane> I feel some body should have that authority
[21:37] <lane> as far as a committee
[21:37] <lane> I suggest an occasional review
[21:37] <lane> say annually
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[21:37] <lane> but ? and ad hoc committee?
[21:37] <lane> by
[21:38] * Lynn sets mode: +v snowshovel
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[21:38] <lane> may be helpful, and it may not be difficult to get some volunteers to do the ??annual review
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[21:38] <lane> with a light shone on any issues that were a hassle during the year
[21:38] <lane> <done>
[21:38] * BethH restarting, brb
[21:38] <Lynn> Thanks Bob
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[21:39] <ali> Thanks for sharing Bob
[21:39] <Lynn> Any other discussion re the motion?
[21:39] <EF> !
[21:39] * Ken-AFK is now known as Ken
[21:39] <Ken> !
[21:39] <Lynn> 8,12 Thank you 4,8 EF 8,12 - you have the floor.
[21:39] <Lynn> 4,8 Ken 8,12 - you will have the floor next.
[21:39] <EF> I have to take issue with what Lane said
[21:40] * Lynn sets mode: +v moonDoggie
[21:40] <EF> although I like the idea of group conscience
[21:40] <ali> Hi EF
[21:40] <Ken> one share per subject?
[21:40] <Ken> sry..
[21:40] <EF> in the past group conscience was used to discriminate against members
[21:40] <EF> when there is conflict
[21:40] <EF> in #slaa
[21:40] <EF> people get emotional
[21:40] <EF> it's natural
[21:40] <EF> people do break rules when they get into drama and emotional states
[21:41] <EF> ops do it; members do it
[21:41] <EF> we all do it
[21:41] <EF> I've done it many times
[21:41] <EF> each person in #slaa wants to be heard; and sometimes
[21:41] <EF> group conscience does not allow each person to be heard
[21:41] <Lynn> EF...this was to be about the motion on the table.
[21:41] <EF> in the past, power or group conscience was given
[21:41] <evan> ok and it is his second time on the subject
[21:42] <EF> well I am in favor of the comittee
[21:42] <EF> thanks
[21:42] <evan> ok thanks ef
[21:42] <evan> ken
[21:42] <EF> you cut me off tho
[21:42] <EF> I was explaining why
[21:42] <EF> done
[21:42] <Lynn> 8,12 Thank you 4,8 Ken 8,12 - you have the floor.
[21:42] <Ken> Thx..
[21:42] <Ken> i think this one seems pretty vut and dry.. IMHO
[21:42] <Ken> Cut and dry that is..
[21:43] <Ken> the guidlines that are in place are for a godo reason..
[21:43] <Ken> that we are addicts..
[21:43] <EF> nods
[21:43] <Ken> and alot of the times things get out of control..
[21:43] <Ken> and in here..
[21:43] <Ken> just like in f2f meetings..
[21:43] <EF> nods
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[21:43] <Ken> things need to be well understood..
[21:43] <EF> nods
[21:44] <Ken> and it is far to easy in here to assume that tehre is no consequences for our actions..
[21:44] <Ken> this should be a place that also models real life..
[21:44] <Ken> i know that in f2f meetings..
[21:44] <Ken> the behaviours that alot of times are displayed here ..
[21:44] <Ken> would not be tolerated..
[21:45] <BillH> nods
[21:45] <Ken> i beleive the process that is currently in place..
[21:45] <Ken> to warn the offending member..
[21:45] <Ken> twice about their actions..
[21:45] <Ken> and to point them to the guidlines..
[21:45] <Ken> which i would suspect..
[21:45] <Ken> most in teh room have never read..
[21:45] <EF> nods
[21:46] <Ken> i know i didnt read them until having beein here for quite a while..
[21:46] <EF> nods
[21:46] <Ken> if the behaviour continues..
[21:46] <Ken> after two warnings..
[21:46] <Ken> then to instate a one day ban.,
[21:46] <Ken> if after their return.,.
[21:46] <EF> disagree
[21:46] * Lynn sets mode: +v BethH
[21:46] <Ken> this continues..
[21:46] <Ken> rinse and repeat..
[21:46] <EF> disagree
[21:46] <evan> ok three minutes, ken... thanks...
[21:46] <evan> ef
[21:46] <evan> stop
[21:46] <Ken> EF.. please save the xtalk
[21:47] <Ken> done thx
[21:47] <Lynn> Thanks Ken
[21:47] <lane> ty ken
[21:47] <BethH> Thanks Ken
[21:47] <Lynn> Bill would you please restate your motion.
[21:47] <ali> Ty Ken
[21:47] <BillH> !
[21:47] <Lynn> Go ahead
[21:48] <BillH> i make a motion that the guidelines stay as they are and there is not need for a comm.
[21:48] <Lynn> 1,0 ALL are encouraged to vote. Please type 13 + 1 for yes; 13 - 1 for no; 13 x 1 for abstain.
[21:48] <EF> amen
[21:48] <Lynn> +
[21:48] <Ken> +
[21:48] <BillH> +
[21:48] <BethH> +
[21:48] <lane> +
[21:48] <ali> +
[21:48] <snowshovel> X
[21:49] <moonDoggie> x - not clear enough
[21:49] <sunnylady> +
[21:49] <moonDoggie> came late
[21:49] <EF> X
[21:49] <evan> +
[21:49] <evan> motion passes....
[21:49] <evan> thanks
[21:49] <evan> next...
[21:50] <Lynn> ...(B) Discussion re rotating the business meeting to be held during the day every other month so members from other time zones can attend.
[21:50] <Lynn> Floor is open for discussion
[21:50] <BillH> !
[21:50] <Lynn> Go ahead Bill
[21:50] <BillH> perhaps we should ask some of the members overseas if they would come
[21:51] <BillH> to such a meeting
[21:51] <BillH> and if they would come i am all for it
[21:51] <BillH> done
[21:51] <evan> !
[21:51] <Lynn> go ahead evan
[21:52] <evan> id like to make a motion that we make junes meeting during the day and announce it for the next 60days off and on and such
[21:52] <BillH> second
[21:53] <Lynn> Are you finished evan?
[21:53] <evan> done
[21:53] <evan> yes
[21:53] <evan> :D
[21:53] <Lynn> Any discussion?
[21:53] <moonDoggie> !
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[21:54] <Lynn> Go ahead gDog
[21:54] <moonDoggie> I would love to change this meeting time for oversees people who I believe would come w/ the opening... there ARE a zillion of us online, and believe at least one oversees person would want to be here too... and also so it does not conflict with slaa meetings
[21:54] <moonDoggie> done.
[21:54] <Lynn> thanks
[21:54] <moonDoggie> wc
[21:54] <BethH> !
[21:55] <Lynn> Go ahead Beth
[21:55] <BethH> Hi, Beth here, sex/love addict..
[21:55] <BethH> I do agree that business meetings should be moved to daytime..
[21:55] <BethH> not just because of overseas members..
[21:56] <BethH> but also because of the meeting interference factor..
[21:56] <BethH> also, I see how many of us there are here tonight..
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[21:56] <BethH> and this counts as meeting number 1 for me..
[21:56] * Lynn sets mode: +v Rocky
[21:56] <BethH> I think it would be a really good thing to inject some new thoughts..
[21:57] <EF> nods
[21:57] <BethH> of people who would otherwise not be able to be here..
[21:57] * Lynn sets mode: +v CGI254
[21:57] <BethH> I think we need to have more participation from members..
[21:58] <BethH> because a lot of people who attend meetings are in the dark..
[21:58] * lane nods
[21:58] <BethH> because they don't come to these meetings..
[21:58] <EF> nods
[21:58] <BethH> so I think any positive change would be a welcome thing..
[21:58] <BethH> thanks I'm done
[21:58] <evan> thanks beth
[21:58] <CGI254> ty Beth
[21:58] <Lynn> Thanks Beth
[21:58] <Lynn> !
[21:58] <ali> ty BethH
[21:58] <lane> ty beth
[21:58] <BillH> go ahead Lynn
[21:59] <Lynn> HI Lynn here..
[21:59] <CGI254> Hello Lynn
[21:59] <moonDoggie> ! ty beth :)
[21:59] <moonDoggie> Hi lynn :)
[21:59] <Lynn> I would agree to trying June's meeting in the daytime on a weekend so that
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[21:59] <Lynn> those who work can still attend....
[21:59] <moonDoggie> seconds
[22:00] <Lynn> and given the results of the attendance ..
[22:00] <Lynn> we can discuss it again in July.
[22:00] <Lynn> done
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[22:00] <Lynn> !
[22:00] <ali> Thanks Lynn
[22:00] <BillH> go ahead lynn
[22:01] <Lynn> I make that a friendly amendment to the motion - is it accepted?
[22:01] <Ken> only one share per subject lynn ;-)
[22:01] <Ken> oops sry
[22:01] <Ken> :)
[22:01] <moonDoggie> shall we motion it and vote?
[22:01] <Lynn> NO crosstalk please
[22:01] <moonDoggie> sry
[22:01] * Parts: ali
[22:01] <Lynn> Bill...
[22:02] <lane> !qustion??
[22:02] <lane> I mean question?
[22:02] <Lynn> do you accept that change to the motion?
[22:02] <BillH> yes
[22:02] <lane> yes
[22:02] <BillH> and second
[22:02] <evan> yes
[22:02] <BethH> yes
[22:02] <Lynn> 1,0 ALL are encouraged to vote. Please type 13 + 1 for yes; 13 - 1 for no; 13 x 1 for abstain.
[22:02] <Lynn> +
[22:02] <BillH> +
[22:02] <BethH> +
[22:02] <lane> +
[22:02] <moonDoggie> +
[22:02] <snowshovel> +
[22:02] <CGI254> X
[22:02] <Ken> x
[22:03] * Ken is unsure of the motion?
[22:03] <EF> +
[22:03] <Ken> sry
[22:03] <art> x
[22:03] <lane> ! I have a question
[22:03] <Lynn> That June's meeting will be during the day after announcing it frequently.
[22:04] <Ken> ok thx
[22:04] <Ken> +
[22:04] <Lynn> Go ahead lane but the motion has carried
[22:04] <lane> ah that answered it..
[22:04] <lane> sry
[22:04] <Lynn> !
[22:04] <BillH> go ahead lynn
[22:04] <Lynn> Now we need to decided on a day and time.....
[22:04] <Lynn> the floor is open
[22:05] <Lynn> !
[22:05] <BillH> go ahead lynn
[22:05] <Lynn> I would suggest Sunday at 1pm right after the noon meeting.
[22:05] <Lynn> done
[22:06] <Lynn> ooops
[22:06] <Lynn> on the first Sunday of the month
[22:06] <Lynn> done
[22:06] <evan> second
[22:06] <Lynn> Any discussion?
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[22:06] <Ken> !
[22:06] <Lynn> Ken go ahead
[22:07] <Ken> Thx Lynn..
[22:07] <Ken> i would suggest looking at a saturday..
[22:07] <Ken> as there are a number of members that have commitments for sunday evening (over seas) ..
[22:07] <Ken> and a number that attend services on sunday mornings locally..
[22:07] <Ken> done
[22:08] <Lynn> So noted.
[22:08] <evan> !
[22:08] <Lynn> OK...lets have a vote for the preferred day...
[22:08] <Lynn> Evan you have the floor
[22:08] <evan> we have a month buffer, lets ask the other folks
[22:09] <evan> and set it at next business meeting or in 14 days...
[22:09] <evan> done.
[22:09] <BillH> !
[22:09] <Lynn> Go ahead Bill
[22:09] * Parts: art
[22:09] <BillH> i agree with evan
[22:09] <BillH> some are day ahead of us
[22:10] <BillH> sunday might be there monday
[22:10] <BillH> done
[22:10] <BethH> !
[22:10] <Lynn> Someone make a motion please
[22:10] <moonDoggie> time?
[22:10] <Lynn> Sorry..
[22:10] <Lynn> Beth go ahead
[22:10] <moonDoggie> afk
[22:10] <BethH> I think we should make it known to the members who are overseas..
[22:11] <BethH> that we are trying to decide on a time that suits them better..
[22:11] <BethH> and let them submit their thoughts
[22:11] <BethH> thanks, done
[22:11] <CGI254> !
[22:11] <Lynn> 8,12 Thank you 4,8 CGI254 8,12 - you have the floor.
[22:12] * Joins: Curtis
[22:12] Auto-voice doesn't recognize Curtis; Please make sure this person is greeted by you or the greeter, then add them to auto-voice.
[22:12] * Lynn sets mode: +v Curtis
[22:13] <Lynn> Hi, CGI254....are you there?
[22:13] <CGI254> ty....I would like to motion to use evans suggestion and as such make a txt file to play just before opening meetings asking for those overseas to please email slaaonline.org with thier preference as to which weekend date and time. Also to add this to the homepage of the website
[22:13] <Ken> second
[22:13] <CGI254> the motion would read... if I may be allowed
[22:13] * Quits: Curtis (CGI:IRC (EOF) )
[22:13] <CGI254> a moment or two....
[22:13] <CGI254> a moment or two..
[22:14] <CGI254> Motion....
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[22:15] Auto-voice doesn't recognize Curtis; Please make sure this person is greeted by you or the greeter, then add them to auto-voice.
[22:15] * Lynn sets mode: +v Curtis
[22:15] <CGI254> To post prior to meetings from a text file.... That the june business meeting is to be held on a weekend day and your input is needed. We ask that those in europe and other parts of the world to please email slaaonline.org with thier preference of either saturday or sunday and which time slot and all times must be converted to EST
[22:15] <CGI254> done.
[22:15] <CGI254> additionally on the website homepage
[22:15] <CGI254> my bad
[22:15] <CGI254> done
[22:16] <Lynn> Thanks
[22:16] <Lynn> second motion
[22:16] <BillH> second
[22:16] <Lynn> 1,0 ALL are encouraged to vote. Please type 13 + 1 for yes; 13 - 1 for no; 13 x 1 for abstain.
[22:16] <Lynn> +
[22:16] <BillH> +
[22:16] <Ken> +
[22:16] <EF> X
[22:16] <BethH> +
[22:16] <CGI254> +
[22:16] <moonDoggie> +
[22:16] <sunnylady> +
[22:16] <lane> +
[22:16] <snowshovel> +
[22:17] <evan> +
[22:17] <evan> ok passes
[22:17] <evan> next
[22:17] <CGI254> :)
[22:17] <Lynn> ..(C) Website proposal changes
[22:17] <Lynn> !
[22:17] * Joins: Spring
[22:17] Auto-voice recognizes Spring
[22:17] * BillH sets mode: +v Spring
[22:18] <BillH> 8,12 Thank you 4,8 Lynn 8,12 - you have the floor.
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[22:18] <BillH> Hi, Lynn.
[22:18] <EF> hello, Lynn
[22:18] * Added Cherub (Cherub!*cherub@*.dyn.optonline.net) to user list
[22:18] 4* Added Cherub to Auto-Voice (Level 11)
[22:18] * BillH sets mode: +v Cherub
[22:18] <CGI254> Hello Lynn
[22:18] <Lynn> Since we don't have a webmaster I would like to suggest...
[22:18] * Joins: brian
[22:18] Auto-voice recognizes brian
[22:18] * BillH sets mode: +v brian
[22:18] <Lynn> that Susan has agreed to make the changes only...
[22:18] <Lynn> of removing the specialty meeting at this time.
[22:19] <Lynn> done
[22:19] <BethH> !
[22:19] <Lynn> Go beht
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[22:19] Auto-voice recognizes OregonTom
[22:19] * BillH sets mode: +v OregonTom
[22:19] <Lynn> Beth
[22:19] <BethH> Hi, Beth here, sex/love addict..
[22:19] <Spring> hi Beth
[22:19] <snowshovel> Hi beth
[22:19] <BethH> I would be willing to help with changes to the website..
[22:19] <BethH> I build websites..
[22:19] <EF> nods
[22:20] <CGI254> right on
[22:20] <Ken> w00t!
[22:20] * CGI254 is now known as John_M
[22:20] <snowshovel> yippee
[22:20] <BethH> I don't know what needs to be done, or if that has even been decicided yet..
[22:20] <BethH> but I have been wanting to get more involved here..
[22:21] <BillH> gfy
[22:21] <BethH> I have a lot of work samples if anyone would like to view them later..
[22:21] <John_M> :)
[22:21] <BethH> thanks, done
[22:21] <John_M> ty very much Beth
[22:21] <lane> good stuff beth
[22:21] <Lynn> thanks Beth
[22:21] <John_M> ! question
[22:21] <Lynn> Go ahead John
[22:21] <John_M> sorry for being late...
[22:22] <John_M> question is this..
[22:22] <John_M> is the web master being addressed this month?
[22:22] <John_M> if so... could we or should we..
[22:22] <John_M> interupt and vote on beth as interim webmaster?
[22:22] <Ken> :)
[22:22] <John_M> I do know she has been sober a while...
[22:22] <John_M> and in the fellowship a while
[22:23] <John_M> those are my thoughts and questions.
[22:23] <John_M> hope thats not too confusing at this point
[22:23] <John_M> done
[22:23] <Lynn> !
[22:23] <evan> thanks john
[22:23] <BillH> 8,12 Thank you 4,8 John_M 8,12 - you have the floor.
[22:23] <BethH> thanks john
[22:23] <BillH> 8,12 Thank you 4,8 Lynn 8,12 - you have the floor.
[22:23] <evan> !table
[22:23] <snowshovel> Hi Lynn
[22:23] <John_M> Helllo Lynn
[22:23] <Spring> hi Lynn
[22:23] <BillH> Hi, Lynn.
[22:23] <BethH> Hi Lynn
[22:23] <sunnylady> hi Lynn
[22:24] <Lynn> I believe that the webmaster needs to have a year's sobriety....
[22:24] <Lynn> is that not the case?
[22:24] <John_M> no
[22:24] <Lynn> done
[22:24] <BethH> um..
[22:24] <John_M> !
[22:24] <BillH> 8,12 Thank you 4,8 John_M 8,12 - you have the floor.
[22:24] <BillH> Hi, John_M.
[22:24] <Lynn> Sorry six months
[22:24] <John_M> in the last business meeting... .3 months recovery was voted in last month
[22:25] <BillH> nods
[22:25] * Ken nods
[22:25] <evan> ok.... wait time out
[22:25] <evan> lets stick to the agenda
[22:25] <Lynn> Go ahead evan
[22:25] <evan> !
[22:26] <BillH> 8,12 Thank you 4,8 evan 8,12 - you have the floor.
[22:26] <BillH> Hi, evan.
[22:26] <BethH> hi evan
[22:26] <sunnylady> hi evan
[22:26] <Spring> hi evan
[22:26] <evan> id like to table the web changes till next month
[22:27] <BillH> second
[22:27] <evan> just till we can get a better handle on which way we want it to go and such
[22:27] <evan> yeah
[22:27] <evan> thanks...
[22:27] <evan> vote?
[22:27] <Lynn> !'
[22:27] <BillH> +
[22:27] <BethH> +
[22:27] <sunnylady> =
[22:27] <sunnylady> opps
[22:27] <sunnylady> +
[22:27] <evan> lynn?
[22:27] <Lynn> x
[22:27] * Quits: OregonTom
[22:27] <Ken> the vote wanst called by the chair.. please
[22:28] * Ken shrugs
[22:28] <BillH> right
[22:28] <lane> thnx ken
[22:28] <Lynn> I feel that we have already discussed enough that we need to remove the
[22:28] <Lynn> specialty meetings from the web site...
[22:29] <Lynn> as we are getting questions from outside as to whether we are holding them or not.
[22:29] <Lynn> so for clarification since the meetings are not up and running...
[22:29] * evan nods
[22:29] <Lynn> lets take them off the website now.
[22:29] <Lynn> done
[22:30] <BillH> second
[22:30] <evan> make a motion lynn, table the other issue make the web change?
[22:30] <Lynn> Yes,
[22:30] <Lynn> I make the motion that...
[22:31] <Lynn> we update the website re the removal of the specialty meetings...
[22:31] <Lynn> and table the other issues to next month...
[22:31] <Lynn> but would like to add that we advertise in the room that we are in need
[22:31] <snowshovel> second
[22:32] <EF> third
[22:32] * snowshovel says whoops
[22:32] <Lynn> of a the webmaster, co-webmaster, secretary and liason positions.
[22:32] <Lynn> done
[22:32] <EF> thanks for sharing
[22:32] <EF> second
[22:32] <Ken> !
[22:32] <Lynn> Go ken
[22:33] <Ken> might i suggest an amendment to the motion...
[22:33] <Lynn> yes
[22:33] <Ken> that teh changes to the meetings be made immediately..
[22:33] <Ken> and that as an interm position.. that Beth be voted upon as an interm webmaster
[22:34] <Ken> until the formal position can be filled and voted upon
[22:34] <Ken> done
[22:34] <BillH> second
[22:34] <EF> third
[22:34] <Ken> Do you accept the amendment Lynn?
[22:34] * Parts: Cherub
[22:34] <Lynn> Beth are you willing to accept that position?
[22:34] <BethH> yes
[22:35] <John_M> woot!
[22:35] <Ken> w00t!
[22:35] <Lynn> OK...I accept that amendment
[22:35] <John_M> call the question!
[22:35] <John_M> :)
[22:35] <Ken> yay
[22:35] <Lynn> 1,0 ALL are encouraged to vote. Please type 13 + 1 for yes; 13 - 1 for no; 13 x 1 for abstain.
[22:35] <John_M> +
[22:35] <Lynn> +
[22:35] <BillH> +
[22:35] <EF> X
[22:35] <Ken> +
[22:35] <sunnylady> +
[22:35] <lane> +
[22:35] <snowshovel> +
[22:35] <moonDoggie> +
[22:35] <BethH> +
[22:36] <Spring> +
[22:36] <evan> +
[22:36] <Curtis> +
[22:36] <evan> ok passes
[22:36] <evan> next
[22:36] <John_M> !
[22:36] <Lynn> (A)..Treasure's report
[22:36] <Lynn> <Lynn> slaaonline.org/minutes.html
[22:36] <Lynn> <Lynn> .
[22:36] <Lynn> <Lynn> (B)..Approval of report
[22:37] <Lynn> 8,12 Thank you 4,8 John_M 8,12 - you have the floor.
[22:37] * Quits: Curtis (CGI:IRC (EOF) )
[22:37] <EF> hello, John_M
[22:37] <John_M> just wanted to let beth know that I can get with her immediately and go over the basics for log in etc
[22:37] <sunnylady> hi John
[22:37] <John_M> if she is amenable to that.
[22:37] <John_M> done
[22:38] <Lynn> Thanks John...appreciate that.
[22:38] <Lynn> OK....
[22:38] <EF> thanks for sharing
[22:38] <Lynn> Please check the treasure's report as posted
[22:39] <Ken> link?
[22:39] <John_M> http://slaaonline.org/money.html
[22:39] <Ken> motion to accept the tresusers report as posted
[22:40] <BillH> second
[22:40] <EF> third
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[22:40] * BillH sets mode: +v ann_a
[22:40] <Lynn> 1,0 ALL are encouraged to vote. Please type 13 + 1 for yes; 13 - 1 for no; 13 x 1 for abstain.
[22:40] <sunnylady> +
[22:40] <EF> X
[22:40] <BillH> +
[22:40] <Ken> +
[22:40] <Lynn> +
[22:40] <evan> +
[22:40] <lane> +
[22:40] <John_M> +
[22:40] <moonDoggie> x
[22:40] <snowshovel> +
[22:40] * Parts: ann_a
[22:40] <Spring> x
[22:40] <BethH> +
[22:41] <evan> ok passes
[22:41] <evan> next
[22:41] <Lynn> IV. New Business
[22:41] <Lynn> <Lynn> .
[22:41] <Lynn> <Lynn> ....(A) New OP's: Beth H
[22:41] <Lynn> <Lynn> ................. Sara
[22:41] <Lynn> and Spring too
[22:42] <Lynn> Please state your length of sobriety for us.
[22:42] <Lynn> Beth:
[22:42] <Lynn> Go ahead Beth
[22:42] <BethH> I have over a year and a half from my qualifier and 9 months from porn/mb
[22:43] * snowshovel is now known as snowplow
[22:43] * snowplow is now known as snowmachin
[22:43] <Lynn> Thanks .... any discussion re Beth becoming an op?
[22:43] <Lynn> ALL are encouraged to vote. Please type  +  for yes;  -  for no;  x  for abstain.
[22:43] <Lynn> +
[22:43] <BillH> +
[22:43] <snowmachin> +
[22:43] <lane> +
[22:43] <Spring> +
[22:43] <evan> +
[22:44] <sunnylady> +
[22:44] <moonDoggie> +
[22:44] <EF> X
[22:44] <BethH> + hee hee
[22:44] <John_M> +
[22:44] <Ken> +
[22:44] <Lynn> Welcome aboard Beth!! You cannot vote for yourself.
[22:44] <Lynn> Motion carries
[22:44] <Lynn> Next
[22:45] <Spring> congratulations Beth
[22:45] <Lynn> Spring the floor is yours
[22:45] <Spring> 49 days
[22:45] <snowmachin> You are a PoE
[22:45] <Spring> ???
[22:45] <snowmachin> Power of Example
[22:45] <Lynn> Any discussion re Spring becoming an OP?
[22:45] <snowmachin> +
[22:46] <evan> +
[22:46] <Lynn> ALL are encouraged to vote. Please type +  for yes;  -  for no;  x  for abstain.
[22:46] <BillH> +
[22:46] <Spring> (+)
[22:46] <Lynn> +
[22:46] <Ken> +
[22:46] <evan> +
[22:46] <sunnylady> x
[22:46] <lane> +
[22:46] <EF> X
[22:46] <moonDoggie> +
[22:46] <Lynn> Each of you are on a month's probation...
[22:46] <Lynn> and need to OP at least three meetings ....
[22:47] <Lynn> reporting to evan when you have op'ed (if that is ok with you evan?)
[22:47] <Spring> (is there an instruction manual?)
[22:48] <evan> yeah send email to slaaonline@yahoo.org
[22:48] <Spring> k
[22:48] <Lynn> No, but now we need to have people volunteer to help these new OP's to learn the ropes.
[22:48] <Lynn> Any volunteers?
[22:48] <BillH> !
[22:48] <Lynn> !
[22:49] <Lynn> Sorry Bill... go ahead
[22:49] <BillH> just put my hand up to volunteer
[22:49] <Lynn> Mine too
[22:50] <Lynn> I move that we close the meeting for tonight.
[22:50] <BillH> second
[22:50] * Spring is now known as Springop
[22:50] <Lynn> ALL are encouraged to vote. Please type +  for yes; -  for no;  x  for abstain.
[22:50] <BillH> +
[22:50] <Lynn> +
[22:50] <BethH> +
[22:50] <lane> +
[22:50] <sunnylady> +
[22:50] <Ken> +
[22:50] <Springop> +
[22:50] <John_M> +
[22:50] <evan> +
[22:50] <snowmachin> +
[22:50] * Springop is now known as Springora
[22:50] <EF> -
[22:51] <Lynn> motion carries
[22:51] <Lynn> Serenity Prayer
[22:51] <Lynn> God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
[22:51] <Lynn> Courage, to change the things I can, and
[22:51] <Lynn> The wisdom to know the difference.
[22:52] <Lynn> Amen
[22:52] <BillH> Amen
[22:52] <Springora> amen
[22:52] <Lynn> Thanks to everyone for being here and supporting our room.
[22:52] <Lynn> I appreciate that you care enough to come out to these meetings.
[22:52] <moonDoggie> !
[22:52] <Ken> Thx Lynn Evan and Bill
[22:52] <Lynn> Good night.
[22:52] <snowmachin> Thanks Lynn
[22:52] <BillH> Thanks to Lynn and evan for all the hard work tonight
[22:52] <snowmachin> Thanks Evan
[22:52] <lane> thanks for chairing Lynn
[22:52] <Springora> thanks lynn and evan
[22:52] <lane> and thanks evan
[22:52] <sunnylady> thanks Lynn
[22:53] <EF> thanks to everyone here for a great business meeting
[22:53] <BillH> welcome new ops
[22:53] <moonDoggie> ty all :) awesome (1st meeting) btw - this is gDog :) woof!
[22:53] <Springora> well good thing I didn't call DOC today
[22:54] <Springora> maybe that's why it was such a hard day
[22:54] <evan> the courage to change the things i can
[22:54] <snowmachin> Thanks for stepping up in service everyone
[22:54] * snowmachin is now known as snowshovel
[22:54] <evan> and the wisdom to know the difference...
[22:54] * Springora is now known as Springplow
[22:54] * Springplow is now known as Spring
[22:55] * bbfcfm is now known as evanlag
[22:55] <moonDoggie> Great Going Spring!! you were the epitome of... "don't give up the last minute before the miracle!"
[22:55] * Quits: evan (Read error to evan[c-76-98-145-134.hsd1.nj.comcast.net]: Connection reset by peer )
[22:56] * evanlag is now known as evan
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[22:57] * Parts: snowshovel
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[22:58] <OregonTom> Looks like I missed all the excitement.
[22:58] * BillH sets mode: +v evanlag
[22:58] <evanlag> thanks for participating
[22:58] <EF> evan; thank you for chairing
[22:58] <EF> and helping
[22:58] <evanlag> yall be well
[22:58] * Parts: evanlag
[22:59] * Parts: brian
[22:59] <EF> thanks to all the ops and people who were here
[22:59] <Ken> take care everyoner
[22:59] <EF> I support recovery
[22:59] <Ken> peace
[22:59] * Parts: Ken
[22:59] * Quits: EF (Jesus Saves; John 3:16 )
[22:59] * Parts: OregonTom
[22:59] <moonDoggie> alrighty all... I'm heading into slaa to see if Art is still around :)
[22:59] <moonDoggie> love to ALL :) g-Dog
[22:59] * Parts: moonDoggie
Session Close: Tue Apr 03 23:03:44 2007